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« on: July 20, 2008, 01:55:52 PM »

I am toying with the idea of starting a second website (hopefully early next year) and thinking of roping in my brother in law in S’pore to help me on some kind of  ‘profit sharing’ basis.
Has anyone run a biz with family member / members, do you think this is a good idea?
 
On the logistics side
1)If I were to import the product from overseas, say Indonesia and ship to Singapore, how much import duty or GST do I have to pay?

2)Can I just start the website and deal with the technicalities (registering the biz, taxes etc) at a later date when the biz has grown to a certain level.

My husband advised me that any agreement (esp. profit sharing) should not be agree verbally and must be in writing (ideally drafted by a solicitor) to avoid any future misunderstanding.



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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2008, 06:33:29 PM »

Well doing business with family and friends is always a touchy issue when we really get to it; my personal suggestion is to get all the major issues like job scope, remuneration, powers, etc clearly documented in a working agreement before even starting. As "lack of trust" as this may seem, better to get these "dirty things" out of the way at the beginning rather than fight it out when it starts.

For taxes, 2 factors depend. 1 is the fixed government service tax (7%) and the other is variable depending on the category of what your product falls under.

For starting a website, I am assuming you are referring to the relative joint venture business. Best to just get all the nitty gritty out of the way in my view before starting.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2008, 11:28:03 PM »

Nicholas,

Thank you for your advice. On second thoughts, I could probably start the 2nd website on my own, without getting my BIL involved. Just need to figure out ways to fully automate the second website.
One good thing about internet business, if the biz does grow, can always outsource the “packing and shipping” to a fulfillment company (such as amazon.co.uk). In the long term, probably more cost-effective and less headache than getting family or friends involved.
Once again, thank you for your advice.
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 04:03:06 AM »

Personally starting a business with family member is a very difficult situation. Unless the both of you can be 100% trusted and dependable the business wont work.

Once either party have doubts then the business will go down the drain.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 10:30:15 AM »

Thanks for your input Jonniebiz. Since it will be our 2nd website, I probably will not be able to put too much work into it initially, our current website is still my top priority. So it isn’t such a bright idea to get my BIL involved initially.

After saying that, most of the small internet business over here in the U.K. and possibly USA are started by either husband and wife team, friends or family members clubbing together.
Some of them work on the biz for many years whilst still holding their day jobs and only quit or scale down their day jobs when the biz has grown to provide them with a dependable income, which is what I would like to do.
The general consensus is: you need a number of websites under your belt to do this, so if one website say gets thrown out of Google, you have a number of backups to fall back to.
I appreciate that this may not work in Singapore since most people work extremely long hours and do not have the time to start a part time biz in the first place.
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« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2008, 03:17:00 AM »

rose : like you said Small Internet Businesses in UK n USA.

well i am talking from an Asian point of view as culture plays alot in this kind of decision making for us (me in particular)

we don't want to ruin good relationships just because of MONEY. but hey history shows that human learning is slow as we always are susceptible with the same mistakes.

i am lucky to have trustworthy n dependable uncles n brothers. Cheesy
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