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« on: October 20, 2008, 02:32:15 PM »

what should I look out for and what important questions I must asked?

I'm dealing with China and heard a lot of stories about dishonesty...

Besides the following, what else should I take note of:

-custom clearance
-credit terms
-MOQ


I was wondering is there a safer way to safeguard lousy stocks being shipped over? If I reject, I may have to send back and incur cost. How can I safeguard myself?

Also, with the current economic situation, what other things shoudl i take note of?

TIA for your help!!
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 04:52:48 PM »

You might want to consider having a representative that you can trust to do the running and checking for you; cases of having goods that are not even processed (first few layers at container door is ok, then the rest are all rubbish) is common.

If you really want to be sure, be physically there when they load and seal the containers.
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 03:28:13 AM »

For china biz, do not trust even L/C as L/C do not confirm you that they load the good you need.
i agreed that for the first 1-2 loading, go down and see the loading and container load and seal. Next if you not free, get SGS inspection to do the checking for you. But that is quite expensive but its safe.
Also i do not think you can return the goods to china unless you very good term with them.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 05:00:26 PM »

business Information to note:
Chinese Business registration cert can be fake,
and government approval stamp can be easily duplicate in  a nearby store.

check google for fake business registration cert and book in china."

What can you do if you get scammed in China?

Here are my answers to this question:

1.If your supplier is a registered factory or company in China, you can go and meet local officials in person, seeking help from local government authorities in China. Normally you can contact following organs in China:

AIC (Administration for Industry &Commerce), Tax Bureau, Fair Trade Department with Ministry of Commerce and local Police Station etc.

2. If your supplier is not a registered factory or company in China, you can contact local Police Station if you know their Chinese name and ID in China. 

No matter what kind of your suppliers is in China, you're required to report your case in details in Chinese to local officials if you need their help. Most of local officials know nothing about English and it's hard to crack down any case with their created English names online. For example, in China, there are nearly 300000 people sharing the same Chinese name 'Zhang Wei'. Normally local officials will help you out if you or your authorized Rep reports the case to them in person in China, and the scammer can be heavily fined or forced to refund you as soon as possible. But sometimes the scammer is too crafty to be caught in China and also some local officials are badly corrupted in China and they are not willing to help you out sometimes. So Case-Report with enough proof is not 100% sure to get your money back esp when you do not sign any contract with your suppliers before. 

If local officials do not help you out, you're suggested to make a small biz investigation to collect enough proof on their daily business activity in China, then consult local law firms and get ready to sue the bad supplier for their bad credit in China. By this way, you can get back your money in China; at least your supplier will suffer more from your case in China if you take above measures.

 

Basic Tips for doing business in China

 1.Do not forget to check out their Business License and Export License with local officials before payment in China! You can also have to ask them for their full company name in Chinese sometimes.

2. Do not forget to audit and inspect them in person if your order is large enough.

3. Do not forget to sign a formal Purchase or Sale Contract if your order is large enough. Please have a look at this article to learn more regarding Checking a formal contract in China:

   
4. Do not forget to conduct a Pre-shipment Inspection or During-production QC Inspection if your order is large enough in China.

5. Do not forget to ask your supplier directly for their ID information if your supplier is an individual in China, esp. when you buy from them online (but sometimes you will get a fake ID number).

6. Do not forget to ask your supplier directly for their foreign references if your order is large enough in China.

Take care, everybody!
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2008, 05:07:08 PM »

Know more about doing business in CHINA in the following link.
Fraud in CHINA and steps to be taken.

http://resources.alibaba.com/article/286676/Fraud_Case_Study_20_Big_Purchase_Order_Trap.htm
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