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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2005, 03:34:50 PM »

hi all,

look like not many ppl go to seminars.

well this afternoon i went to another seminar.
date: 03 sep 2005
time: 1300h-1600h
location: nuss (suntech)
topic: predictable logical trading and investing
speaker: william bill schamp
fee: free for seminar. $3k for a 3 day course (inclusive of one day live trading)
site: http://www.logicaltraders.com/

well, i heard that speaker is the teacher of dr jason yeo (palm), decide to go down to have a see see look look.

in general, or most of the time, the speaker talked about his method that will teach you how to read price. and with the use of the ergodic indicator, it gives confirmation to how well you are reading the price.

at some point of time, the speaker seems to be contracdicting himself. ie: he mentioned about his method was able to predict where the price would go, at a certain time later, he said he wasnt able to predict where the price would go.

on the whole, the presentation wasnt professional enough. the power point slides seem to be a college school standards. no charts was presented until it was asked for.

is it worth attending the seminar? if you are going with an open mind, it still not that sucks till not worth attending. in general, i would say its always refreshing to attend as it some how refresh some of the trading principles you have forgotten and you can hear some new trading philiosophy in such seminars.

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disclaimer:
this review is solely my own opinion based on the preview seminar. it should not be taken as a review towards the course itself.
The information is for informational purposes only. i assume no liability for any inaccurate, or incomplete information, nor for any actions taken in reliance thereon. it is recommended that you consult directly with the relevant authority (william b. schamp) and seek advice from him directly if you have any queries.
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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2005, 03:23:00 PM »

I saw an advertisement in the newspaper "today" that is a particular guy who is good in stocks and his website is www.powerupcapital.com and was wondering anyone here went to his seminar or something?

Another question i would like to ask is that if one likes to start trading in singapore, wat steps are required in order to do so?and at wat minimum capital?

Besides the bond index just started in singapore not long ago too therefore it seems as though its a chance not to be missed
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2005, 12:08:24 PM »

Topic: Review on K2P's preview
Location: Meritus Mandarin
D/T: 20/09/2005 1900h

Guess I would have to say this is the most hype trading educational preview so far. The location was at the middle of orchard road in a grand hotel. also this is the preview that not only offer drinks but some light food too.  yeah, one more thing, some of the staffs is quite chio too.  

ok. enough of this crap. to the point of the preview to the trading course.  

this guy kelvin han is pretty a straight forward type. his presentation is straight to the point. his background is abit OUTSTANDING, you can always refer to their site at zone-financial.com on his background.  

looking at his idea (K2P) methodology seem to be using trendline to determine support and resistance and to enter the trade on reversal with break out style. his K2P refer to kelvin 2 peaks, which in a way it could be similar to larry william short term, intermediate, long term peak and trough styles. what could be different most probably lies in the rules and conditions to determine a valid peak/trough. also, u only need a pen, ruler and chart to apply his method. no need indicators, no need software, no need special program.  

all his presentation charts were zoomed in, so cant really see the big picture, fair enough though, if not u wont be attending his course.

besides all these marketing hype, he presented a statment slides on his HS trade from ong first. he also showed 3 cheques issued by ong first to 3 of his graduates. for the benefit of doubts, all these could be real. however, different perspective, its not tough to have/fabricate those presentation stuffs.  

also, he mentioned there are some (maybe 5) people registered his course prior to the preview, and they received emails every morning (for about 2 weeks) till the preview day. yeah plently fantastic calls, only one losses (simsci). well, the only thing that never asked, who's that some(maybe 5) people in the preview? even so, its not tough to find 5 people anyway.  

so how about the course fee? $4688, if sign up that day, $2688!!! that's 40% discount price. of course the same question pours in, if really can make money, y go so cheap? fyi, he mentioned it would be $4688 for the nov batch, maybe no more discount  

anyway, have never heard of him before, but he mentioned there has been courses running, its all through referrals. if i remembered correctly, there are already 8 batches of his FT 101 and FT202 or something like that.


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disclaimer:
this review is solely my own opinion based on the preview seminar. it should not be taken as a review towards the course itself.
The information is for informational purposes only. i assume no liability for any inaccurate, or incomplete information, nor for any actions taken in reliance thereon. it is recommended that you consult directly with the relevant authority (zone-financial) and seek advice from them directly if you have any queries.
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2005, 03:04:03 PM »

If they can make 30% p.a. from the market every year, they'll be either millionaires in a few years or billionaires in 20-30 years (like warren buffett who averaged 24.9% p.a.).

Ask anyone in the finance industry. Any person who has proven track record of 20% or more p.a. will immediately get picked up by investment firms to handle million dollar funds.

No one will sell their hard earned "secrets to making money in the market" for a couple thousand dollars.

Ask any gurus or seminar/course provider to produce audited account statements and/or track record and you will see them try to wringle their way out of it 100% of the time. Ask yourself this: Why is it so hard to produce statements if they are really so successful? Why is it that real Wall Street pros and funds produce these statements all the time when soliciting clients?

Get this in your head:
There are no paid guru/seminar/course that is proven to make money.
There are no paid guru/seminar/course that is proven to make money.
There are no paid guru/seminar/course that is proven to make money.
There are no paid guru/seminar/course that is proven to make money.
There are no paid guru/seminar/course that is proven to make money.
There are no paid guru/seminar/course that is proven to make money.
There are no paid guru/seminar/course that is proven to make money.
There are no paid guru/seminar/course that is proven to make money.


P.S.
Anyone who disagree: Please go find one with audited account statements or track record before replying. Don't waste our time thanks.
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2005, 03:16:37 PM »

Quote from: SarahCovenant


Get this in your head:
There are no paid guru/seminar/course that is proven to make money.


hmm, put it this way, you enrol in a course in IT, I am sure some of them will come out knowledgable while some of them (likely you) will find the course to be of little use or value?

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P.S.
Anyone who disagree: Please go find one with audited account statements or track record before replying. Don't waste our time thanks.


There will be 1 such courses/seminar coming next year Feb or Mar, I wonder when there is such courses what is your next comment.
Is showing audited account statements enough?
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2005, 10:29:39 AM »

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hmm, put it this way, you enrol in a course in IT, I am sure some of them will come out knowledgable while some of them (likely you) will find the course to be of little use or value?


Put it this way, IT courses teach you stuff which you can evaluate by looking at the modules and checking out what it is about.

IT courses can also be judged from the graduate's performance, employment record or ability.

When it comes to trading courses, you're comparing apples to oranges. Because trading courses have so far a grand total of 0 such venues by which consumer may judge. (in layman terms, there was never a case where the seminar fulfilled the promises advertised)

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There will be 1 such courses/seminar coming next year Feb or Mar, I wonder when there is such courses what is your next comment.
Is showing audited account statements enough?


If there is such a course that shows industry standard audited account statements I'll:

1) sign up for it since it obviously works and i'll be rich before you know it.

2) recommend the guy to be a fund manager to my finance industry contacts.
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2005, 11:51:37 AM »

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(in layman terms, there was never a case where the seminar fulfilled the promises advertised)


how did you come to the conclusion of these? Did you make it up?
Not saying the courses out there is good but I will not deny that there is some good courses out there.
They have many testimonial (and of course you will bla bla bla about the testimonial of those people)
So even if the courses fulfilled and past student speak up and give a testimonial you will brush it off aside so how then can a seminar fulfilled the promises when you are not ready to accept it?


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If there is such a course that shows industry standard audited account statements I'll:

1) sign up for it since it obviously works and i'll be rich before you know it.

2) recommend the guy to be a fund manager to my finance industry contacts.


What is the industry standard auditied account? You want to explain a little more so everyone is aware of what you are looking for?
A million dollar in a year?
For the past 50 years?
More than 1000 trade?
Huh
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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2005, 11:54:59 AM »

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(in layman terms, there was never a case where the seminar fulfilled the promises advertised)


how did you come to the conclusion of these? Did you make it up?
Not saying the courses out there is good but I will not deny that there is some good courses out there.
They have many testimonial (and of course you will bla bla bla about the testimonial of those people)
So even if the courses fulfilled and past student speak up and give a testimonial you will brush it off aside so how then can a seminar fulfilled the promises when you are not ready to accept it?

Or are you looking for a industry standard audited account statement from those student and want to see how much they make?


Quote from: SarahCovenant

If there is such a course that shows industry standard audited account statements I'll:

1) sign up for it since it obviously works and i'll be rich before you know it.

2) recommend the guy to be a fund manager to my finance industry contacts.


What is the industry standard auditied account? You want to explain a little more so everyone is aware of what you are looking for?
A million dollar in a year?
For the past 50 years?
More than 1000 trade?
Huh
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2006, 03:10:44 AM »

hi, just wondering if anyone here really attended any option workshop.

i have attend a few preview. and what really interest is the gapping anaylsis. Different workshop has different gapping analysis name.

so i wonder those who attend the workshop, those the gapping anaylsis work? or can you share how it work with us?

PS:gapping analyisi, the workshop teaches. is not the gap incur during splitting of stock or the difference between closing and opening price. It is a huge but no linear drawing during the trading hours.

thanks.
just wanna learn more abt options.
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