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« on: November 15, 2006, 07:06:05 AM »

any1 hear of such company.

u invest $$$ in the company to buy investment lots.
every mth they pay u interests back.

The profit of 1200% is given only when the project is completed but your principle(5%) will be gurantee by its partner company even when the project failed.
the partner company is sunshine-empire is i am not wrong.

This coming thurs (16Nov) the company is bring around 400 members to taiwan to see the demo site.  4 flights, including 2 SQ, 1 Eva, 1 CI is booked for everyone and 4 4-5* hotel is booked for us to stay. 

Lastly the company start up capital is sg is 2mil SGD and in taiwan is 30mil NT. they also say they had the ROC to show it.

Do you think is true?
this look abit scam to me leh.
5% back per mth seems too high for most business.
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2006, 04:51:06 PM »

I heard about it, it sounds too fishy in my opinion. The method of operation sounds ponzi-ish. Also, for a technology firm, the site has too little details about the project, on the procurement process and on the business proper.

They can show RCB info, we can always do a BizFile to verify and check.

Travelling to Taiwan after the members paid, why am I not surprised?
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2006, 04:00:28 AM »

I am one of the associates in Sunshine-Empire.

I am also one of the person in the 400+ to go taichung to test the demo sites and the base stations of the wireless.

In Jan 07 the company will be officially launched in Taichung and press conference will be hold either in jan or mar 07.

Bascially i tested the speed test and the wireless connection and the everything is good.

Emcom itself does not have the technology to develop all these wireless, but its technology partners has and they are Blue Engine from singapore and Tayee Technology from taiwan.

You can find the partners in this site: http://emcom.net.tw

Anyway the price of the investment lots does not stays and the ROI does not keep at 1200% too.

This is an High Risk investment, but it also gives you an High Returns.

For now the the ROI has drop to 1000% since the project is getting more infomation.

The RCB all that can be check in BizFile, but the taiwan RCB not sure whether you guys can find in the net.

If you guys wish to know more about this, you can pm me, maybe we could meet up and i can explain more to you guys.

No harm knowing more about it, its better to ask someone who know more about it then just try to find all the infomation on the net Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2006, 03:13:08 AM »

yup , it exists.. i heard of it before too... but i just shrugged that off.
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2006, 03:07:52 PM »

Hi IvanD

I've come across 1 of your guys in the network and so did my mom when one of your teammate came by her office and showcased to her what Emcom does in Taiwan. Perhaps i have some queries for you here which i hope you could answer in your capacity.

1. On the brouche given to my mom, i saw that there returns are indeed very high (1200%) if i am not wrong. Pray tell, how by that means would your revenue model be to payout dividends per investment?

2. On the same brouche, you highlight many partners including Accton, IBM, etc etc. May i know how are these giants partnering your good organisation in wiring up Tai Chung

3. On the application, i saw that we will be signing on a joint-venture kinda document? How does this JV work out in terms of company structure?

4. Lastly, what do you give in assurance to people investing in your company? what is Emcom's company EBIT, management track record, paid-up capital (locally and abroad) and to whom was the contract signed with in Taiwan to wire up taichung?

Thanks dude

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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2006, 03:46:55 AM »

Hi Zhuang i will try my best to give you answers to your enquires Cheesy

1.  Please note that the 1200% profit or dividends will ONLY be given when the project is completed and when it start operations and earn profit.  Emcom will be taking out 50% of its profit from its services, eg wireless subscription, VOIP phone subscription, advertising, Internet CCTV etc. to pay the 1200%, anyway its left with 1000% now only.
About the way they generate i am not too sure as i am not in the management team of Emcom.

2.  Please go to http://emcom.net.tw to see all our partner list.  Basically Bluegine and Taiyee is helping us to build the wireless infrastructure and Accton, IBM is hardware partners of Emcom.  They provide some hardware and help us maintain our infrastructure.

3.  When you wish to participate in the investment, you will be required to sign an merchant agreement from Sunshine Alliance (Marketing Partner) for your gurantee ROI and partner agreement from Emcom for your 1200% ROI.  I would advise you to read throughly before signing, and make sure you understand what is stated.

4.  Emcom is a newly set up company, its experience comes from its technology partners eg Bluegine, Taiyee, IBM and Accton.  Emcom has office in singapore, malaysia and taiwan.  The start up capital in singapore is 2mil SGD and taiwan is 30mil NT not sure about malaysia.
The gurantee return is gurantee by Sunshine Alliance which has a group of marketing company thats most than 10 years and with sales revenue track record too.  Sorry i dun have the records, but i do have the ISP approval letter from taiwan, RCB of Emcom in taiwan and singapore.

Anyway this is a private project which has no aids from govt, and the official launch will be in Jan 07.  By the time there will be press conference too.

If my answers is not enough maybe we can meet up so that i can show you the hardcopy RCBs.

You can pm me for more details too Cheesy
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2007, 11:18:20 AM »

Yes it is true about the 1200%, by the way is only 12X the profit from the capital you invested.

E.g - 1000 (invested) X12 = 12k, not 1000(invested) X 1200

The dividend is given every 10th of the month (like NS pay date), and is not only only given when the project is completed and when it start operations and earn profit. The company will give the dividend until your invested amount X 12 amount is back into your pocket. (e.g invest 1000 X 12 = 12 000, they will pay you dividend depending on the package you invested, for example i get the silver package so every month about 200 (let say) cause it may fluctuate. so become 12000/200 = 60 month which is 5years)

The company did not guarantee the duration for you to get the amount back, but they only guarantee the amount they going to pay you. Bluengine actually bidded for the singapore wireless but they was not chosen (this is don't know what reason)

The company you invested is not a MLM company because they only make sure of the network to spread the message faster without going through advertising and such. The company you are investing in is like Singtel/Starhub over in Taiwan which will be after they completed the building.

They actually have done a similar project (size slightly smaller than singapore) called Dan Shiu (plain water - in chinese sorry about my poor han yu pin ying).

I am currently looking for investor to tag along with me because i seriously think that the amount invested is a rather big sum (for normal people - don't say those rich guy) for a start-up investment which one might not know what the result, Once tag, everyone will have access to the account (of course) then transfer money every month.

Singapore have a company that is dealing with this, just one MLM company. I just happened to know a friend who join there and i join in with them. I am currently using the investment money as a cash flow for my small business. Pretty good and i still have some pocket money and transportation fees. (i don't invest a few k btw, i only throw in thousand (less than 5k)
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2007, 07:26:51 AM »

hi everyone,

let me explain some of the above correction in my understanding since i'm new member. and oh boy, aren't they spreading fast?

1. emcom (empire communications technology) in taiwan is the mother firm who has proved previously that wireless boardband is possible. u can see the below movie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isay1BDTj9A

2. in order for the to hookup the whole city, they need investors for their project that is why sunshine empire is introduced under MLM scheme.

3. is MLM legal? yes n no unless they are registered and approved. and yes, all empire affiliate under EMPIRE GROUP ALLIANCE is approved. i have all their B&W license copies from Singapore and Taiwan.

4. 1200% payout? make it this way, there is 2 part of passive income.
part 1, if u buy a SILVER PARTNER, u will be entitle for 150% or GOLD PARTNER 200% as ur customer rebate (amount insured by sunshine empire before n during construction). meaning u will be getting rebate 10th of every months in 10-12.5% till they insured amount reached. eg. GoldPartner will be getting back their rewards 12.5% every 10th of the month for 16 months, that's 200%. END.
part 2, once their construction completed n business running, we will also be elligible for loyalty rewards at up to 1000%. now u may ask how is this possible. let me tell u, 50% of subscription fee to their WIFI+WIMAX SERIVES will be spread among members till our promised 1000% ROI is fully paid. that's when our contract to sunshine empire will be officially end. since 1000% is a large amount, therefore no timeframe is given for the 1000% loyalty rewards. say, 50% PA for 20 yrs. this is considered bonus, why not right?

5. there is also a active income under the MLM scheme of sunshine empire that is when u recruiting. this is optional. u dun have to recruit to earn which is the best part. like me, sleeping investor Cheesy

6. do they have office in asia region? yes, taiwan, singapore, KL, indonesia... maybe more... hong kong, etc... i dun really bother that much as long they got 1 in malaysia Cheesy u can always visit the office in KLCC and ask them to show u the license of operating.

7. if this plan so good, why dun they get loan from bank?
the answer is, if they ask loan from bank, they will owe money to bank, but if they selling the shares, they dun need to get a loan, lagi it get them famous throughout asia with all their investors helping it to expland as a team.

8. how do they pay us or withdraw?
you can choose to pay to our local saving a/c, it only takes 7 working day.

9. will this MLM part last forever?
in term of promoting, no, because each project only require specific amount of fund, therefore once the shares sold out meaning the required fund for the project is targetted and MLM part will be end. so dun wait till it is fully sold out.

10. am i skeptical abt this?
well, everyone has a bit of doubt abt this especially those who previously involved in online ponzi scam where money is cycling in n out. those programs are not license nor does it proof how they earn or run. those program may earn only if u r early bird. but with sunshine empire, ur investment is secured in legal way! bare in mind that this is offline scheme in real project with proof. not like eg. swisscash where BNM are watching them with no proof of running business and consistently changing address.

11. is there anything better than this?
if u ask me this, i'll answer u the same thing. aren't the proof satisfies ur desire?

here is some site i found from my upline frien. it explain a bit abt their strategy.
http://smart-investa.org
sorry i dun have my own site but u can PM to contact me. i am from kuching, sarawak. if u wish to visit to office in KL or talk about it in KL, i will get my upline to arrange to meet u up and show u the office and all the licenses of operation.

andy.
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« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2007, 01:36:13 AM »

Well i,m 1 of the gold partner for the project and getting sgd about $1300 evry month in return.Amazing man.. project end as calculated will be reciving sgd$100,000 shocking... the profile for the company its true no joking matters..theres no gurantee but risk has been minimise greatly. In the event of the project failed the Co. sunshine-empire will award u with 200% R.O.I another 1000% will be awarded after the phases is close and completed. Well quite worth the $$ though. Latest info now project phase for Taipei is Phase 3. But there will be more phases around the asia region coming soon to continue the partnership scheme as the response is overwhelming. Feel free to P/M me for details thn.. i was a skeptical person in the 1st plc but really thnks to a gd bro of my to let me have this opportunity. this scheme has help quite a number of low income families financially. The best ever i had ever came across. Sunshine All the Way.....
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2007, 09:17:34 AM »

Hey Guys,

I know this company.

It's just another form of ponzi or HYIP.
An ponzi in disguise in the form or an
investment company.

Well, in all things said and done...
go and play with money you really
feel like burning with a lighter during
your happy days.

Cheers,

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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2007, 04:42:19 PM »

Yeah we all know it's a ponzi, just that the people who are already invested in and don't know better (ie. they got pay me! [yeah, from the money of others], they rather take investors than from banks! [yeah, and give up the bank's interest rate of 5 - 15% annum for a 1500% interest payment to their investors] and so on and so forth) and there really isn't a way to awaken their ideas.

Simply because the people who are invested in are those who believe the people who got rich have a "secret", and with emcom, they are now let into the same "secret", the same "privileged information" and nothing, not even hard facts is able to wake up their idea.
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2007, 05:25:18 PM »

Hi all Con-man and going-to-be-or-might-not-be con-man,

I'm sure u all know what u all doing, getting ur frens into the "so-called" investment to help them earn the "so-called" money. All your motive is very clear. EARN YOUR FRENS MONEY !!!

My Q's to all singaporean or whoever reading this msg, just ask yourselves below these few Q's and then think carefully whether is this investment a scam :

1) Does any investment companies (Aberdeen, fidelity ,DBS investment, UOB investment OCBC investment... etc....) ever pay a return of more than 100% in such a short period of time?? i think the most is about 5-20%!!!

2) If this company with such a high pay out, think carefully. 10 yrs down the road, the banks and the investment companies in the whole world will close down. Cos who will wanna investment with the bank. That mean DBS, OCBC, UOB, OUB and American Express, Swiss bank will all close down because of this company, since they can pay 10x or 100x more than them. But will this be true?? think carefully!!

3) Does anyone know who is Singtel recently business partner?? Is it anyone of you? NO !!! All companies look for real rich investor who throw in millions and millions to invest with them. Will a 'well-establish' company like this choose someone like us who only have a few thousands in the bank to invest with them??

4) Does anyone know what is the meaning of Guarantee? Does anyone of ur insurance agents, investment brokers tell u that u can guarantee get back 100% of your money if u invest with them?? NO!! but how come this business can promise that?? think again!!

5) Last but not least, who do u think U yourselves are? Li Ka Shing?? Bill Gates?? Warren Buffett?? Why ppls dun choose them to invest in the company but U? B'cos of the word "GREED"!! They catches all ppls greed and lead them to the trap of wealthness, but all these wealthness will utimately goes to the boss of the business. For all ppls out there who already with such little saving, always hope to get rich but not willing to try something legal like the real MLM or do part-time will mostly fall into such a scam. Those ppls in that "so-called"  investment company r all well train to come out to "lead" U to the "brighter" side of the road. Will you wanna be one of those stupid idiot who ganna con by them?? think for urself !!!

I rather spent my money on food, clothes or even open a store to do some small business than to invest my money with someone who is up to something bad.
Anyway, i join Nuskin before. i went to many other MLM company like Amway, Synergy, Vemma, and a lot more.... and i'm a MLM distributor now. I Hope those ppls out there who have not invest money in those scam company. My advice is that, i rather u spent the money on the real MLM companies and u get lof of products and at the same time u can learn a lot of stuffs like health, motivation sales and management and built a network there which oso help in the future.

Use your hard earn money wisefully and carefully!! Remember!! Why ppls choose u in such a good investment? Do u fix into that X-factor (very rich ppl) ?? If not, dun invest in it!!

Hope my msg can help a lot of ppls to really think carefully when they really wanna invest there money in something.
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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2007, 09:54:34 AM »

Hi all,
looks like we have the CAD and MAS on the look out for this company. there was a radio broadcast on 95.8FM on this issue. complains have been made and they actually sent someone into the company for insider news. i really wish to post the audio file to share with u guys.

its just a matter of time for all this to end now. in case any of my friends thinking of doing such investment, i'll let them listen to the audio. let me how if i can post the clip somewhere to share yea
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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2007, 01:07:56 PM »

Can send me a copy of the clip.
I wanna show it to my GF's colleagues cos they r in the business.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2007, 01:11:13 AM »

no problem. any interested  let me noe too
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